ANDY BENNETT CAROL_BARNES CHRIS DC_HAZEL_SAVAGE DC_LAW DETECTIVE_1 DETECTIVE_2 DET_SUPT_BENNETT DOCTOR FEMALE_CONSTABLE FEMALE_JOURNALIST FRED JADE JANET JOSH MAE MALE_JOURNALIST MIKE OGDEN ROSE RUTH STEPHEN STEVE_SCOTT TV_REPORTER UNIFORMED_CONSTABLE JADE That's not fair. Come on you said yesterday that's not my fault. JANET Come on you lot. Chop chop! JADE Chop chop! Chop chop! MIKE Anyone seen my overalls? JANET (To MIKE) There's some clean ones in the back, love. MIKE Thanks. JANET (calling upstairs) Andy! Josh! It's ten past! JANET (CONT'D) Where's Andy? JOSH I dunno. Who's moved my rucksack? JADE Me, it was in the way. JANET Right Jade I want you in the car; come on get your shoes on. (to Chris) And you love, come on. Let's go. CHRIS I'm tired and I’m hungry. JANET Andy? We are going now! ANDY I'm coming! JANET Got your bus fare? JOSH Yeah, see you later. JADE Come on Chris you are always late. CHRIS No I’m not. JADE Yes you are. MIKE See you love. JANET Bye. JANET (CONT'D) Got your recorder Jade? JADE Mum It's not recorder day today, that's tomorrow! ROSE (Calling through to the adjoining room.) Mae! Get that! DC HAZEL SAVAGE Is your mum in? MAE (perplexed) She's inside. MAE Mum. ROSE Bloody hell, not you again! DC HAZEL SAVAGE That's right. Me again. ROSE What's that? DC HAZEL SAVAGE A warrant to search the house and the garden. DETECTIVE 1 Excuse me. DETECTIVE 2 Excuse me. IN: 10:02:34 Caption: Writer / Executive Producer Neil McKay STEPHEN What's going on? MAE I dunno. STEPHEN What are they all...? MAE They just come in with search warrants. ROSE Mind my house, you great lummock! RUTH What, then, are the signs of abuse, which social workers should look out for in children? These may be physical: unexplained cuts and bruises. But they may also be behavioural. Is a child withdrawn, aggressive or unusually introverted? Is there an unspoken atmosphere of fear in the house?... ROSE (Hissed whisper) Language: 10:03:11 It's me. That interfering bloody arsehole bitch is here again! She got a search warrant this time. You better have your story straight! And anything you need to do, you better get done! Right? JANET (into phone) Hello?... Speaking... Oh, right... (She looks pleased) So you want me to come in now? JANET (CONT'D) No, no, it's fine... Half an hour?... Okay then. Bye. JANET (CONT'D) That was the police. They need an appropriate adult. JOSH (with only mild interest) A what? JANET You know: it’s that thing I volunteered for. JANET (CONT'D) You lot don't listen to a word I say do you? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Janet Leach? JANET Yeah. DC HAZEL SAVAGE This way please. Detective Superintendant Bennett is waiting for you. DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Janet Leach, The appropriate adult, sir. DET SUPT BENNETT Sorry for calling you in at this time of day. Probation and social services had no-one available. JANET Do you mind if I ask who it is? DET SUPT BENNETT A 52-year-old man. JANET With learning difficulties? DET SUPT BENNETT Well all I can say is we've been advised to have an appropriate adult. JANET Oh yes. DET SUPT BENNETT (CONT'D) You have done this before? JANET Oh no, but I've done the training. DET SUPT BENNETT Carry on. OGDEN Howard Ogden, solicitor. DC LAW This tape-recorded interview is being conducted at Gloucester Central police station. I am DC Darren Law and my colleague here is... DC HAZEL SAVAGE DC Hazel Savage. DC LAW And could I have your name please? FRED Frederick Walter Stephen West. DC LAW And acting as your legal representative? OGDEN Howard Ogden. DC LAW And acting as your appropriate adult? JANET Janet Leach. DC LAW You're not just here to observe the interview is conducted fairly but also to advise Mr West and facilitate communication with him. JANET I understand. DC LAW Super. The date is Friday 25th February 1994 and the time 16:57. Before we set off, I've got to remind you Fred that you're still under caution in that you don't have to say anything unless you wish to do so, but what you do say may be used in evidence. Do you understand? FRED Yeah. DC LAW Okay, you were arrested earlier today by my colleague here in relation to the murder of your daughter Heather. Could you tell me, in your own words, what you know about that? FRED Right, what happened was Heather wanted to leave home, you see. She'd been knocking about with this girl with a red mini. FRED (CONT'D) A mini-skirt, not a Mini car. FRED (CONT'D) Language: 10:07:37 We were pretty sure she was a lesbian, like. So - me and Rose - said: hang on a sec, you better think about this, girl. Give it the night, at least. So next morning comes up, and she looked real rough. She been crying and... So Rose says: let her go. She says: I'll go to the bank and draw out £600 and she can have that and go. So Rose goes off, and I'm left with Heather, in the hall with her suitcase, and she's got her hands on hips - you know the big lady, like, and I say: how about you get a flat up the road? - then you can have girl-friends up there. And she says: if you don't let me fuckin go, I'll give all the kids acid - that's LSD like - and they'll all jump off the church roof and kill theirselves. And I says: that's not nice, girl, threatening to do that to your own brother and sisters. And she had a smile on her face, a sort of smirk - like: try me and I'll do it. So I just lunged at her, like that. FRED (CONT'D) I grabbed her by the throat like that and I held her for, I don't know how long. But it was quick, it was real quick because it's surprising how long you can hold someone by the throat until they... until they. But I can't even remember to that extent what happened next but the next minute she's gone blue. And I'm looking at her from head to foot and - I mean what the hecks gone wrong? So I put her on the floor, and I'm blowing into her mouth, pumping her chest, but she kept on going bluer. I didn't know what to do. I hadn't meant to hurt her, and Rose was due back any minute. I’m thinking: Jeez, I've got to do something. I was scared. So I was going to put her in the Wendy house, then I thought I'd put her in the dustbin, but I couldn't get her in there. So I get this ice saw; you know with the two prongs at the top and serrated edges, you use it for cutting blocks of ice... And I cut her legs off and - I that was unbearable, I can still hear that in my sleep. Then I cut her head off. FRED (CONT'D) I closed her eyes first - 'cause you're not going to take a saw to your own daughter when she's sat there looking at you, are you? Then she fit neatly in the bin, so I pushed it down the end of the garden behind the Wendy house. Then I took her suitcase of clothes out and stuck it out behind the vet's on St Michael's Square, where everyone chucks their rubbish. Then I got Heather from behind the Wendy house and buried her. FRED (CONT'D) I been meaning to come down here and get all this sorted before, but I never got round to it. FRED (CONT'D) Can I ask if the appropriate adult's all right? JANET Quite all right, thank you. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Let's get this clear. You're saying you killed your daughter? FRED But not intentionally. DC LAW What sort of grave we're looking for? FRED Just a hole in the ground. About four foot square. DC HAZEL SAVAGE And what's in this hole? FRED Well Heather. DC HAZEL SAVAGE In how many pieces? FRED Three pieces. Two legs, a head and a body. DC LAW That's four pieces. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Are you happy to come to the house and point out where she is? FRED Yeah. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Why didn't you tell us all this before Fred? FRED I wasn't ready. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Or is it 'cause we're carrying out a search of your property and you're afraid we might find her? FRED No, no, you see all this is causing stress to Rose and I don't want that. The thing I'd like to make clear is that Rose knew nothing about any of this. DC LAW The time is 17:08 by my watch and the interview is ended whilst arrangements are made to visit 25 Cromwell Street. This notice explains what happens to the tapes. DC HAZEL SAVAGE (to JANET) Can I have a word? JANET Yeah sure. FRED Is Rose here? DC HAZEL SAVAGE No. FRED I’ve got a feeling she was in the building. DC HAZEL SAVAGE She's not here. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Just wanted to make sure you're okay. JANET Yeah, yeah ... I’m Fine ROSE Get off! Get off! DC HAZEL SAVAGE She is here. I thought they were taking her straight to Cheltenham. BENNETT This way. ROSE Alright! You’re unbelievable you lot, it’s fucking un-believable! JOSH Hello. JANET Hi love It's me is everything all right? JOSH Yeah. JANET Have you had tea? JOSH Sort of. JANET I'm going to be a while - you might have to put Jade to bed. JOSH Where are you? JANET I told you: the police station. Helping the police with an investigation. JOSH What investigation? BENNETT Yeah the press office are working on it now. JANET I can't talk about it. I'm really sorry love I've got to go. I'll See you later alright bye. DC LAW …Overalls? FRED Standard police issue are they? DC LAW Nothing but the best. FRED Damn stuff drives you mad it does. DC LAW What’s that Then? FRED Damn stuff gets everywhere. OGDEN All set? FRED I been spraying this bloke's loft over Stroud way, see. DC LAW We don't have backscratchers in the station Fred. DC LAW (CONT'D) Car ready? We are. FRED Do I know you from somewhere? JANET I'm sure you don't. FRED You don't half look familiar. DC LAW I’ll go in the first car with Mr West, his solicitor Mr Ogden. FRED (CONT'D) Ain't just Heather I buried in that garden. FRED (CONT'D) There's more. JANET (blankly) More? FRED You wouldn't believe it. FRED (CONT'D) Not that you can let on to the police I told you that, eh? You have to keep everything I say in confidence. But you're a good appropriate adult, you'll already know that. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Mrs Leach. Okay, all ready. Let's go. DC LAW Right arm please Fred. FRED Where’s Rose? DC HAZEL SAVAGE On her way to Cheltenham police station. She's also under arrest. FRED That is a waste of her time and yours. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Come on. FRED The work I put into this place. Knocking through here, building on there. Years of back break to get it looking tickety-boo. DC HAZEL SAVAGE I need to remind you you're still under caution, Fred. Do you understand? FRED Yes thank you, Hazel. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Can you show us where you buried your daughter Heather? FRED Problem is, remembering what you did when.. FRED (CONT'D) I'd try there. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Is Bernard still around? DC LAW OS He's gone home for the night. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Get him back, we need a pathologist. DC LAW What about the press? DC HAZEL SAVAGE They've already seen us bring digging gear in... J.B.'s issuing a holding statement. FRED See there? JANET What? FRED And there? JANET What am I meant to be looking at? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Okay, we're going to get a forensic team to start examining that area. We'll take you back to the station now, apply for an extension of custody and resume our interview tomorrow. Is there anything else you wish to say? FRED Yes. Will the appropriate adult be present? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (To JANET) Can you attend? JANET Yes... if you want me. FRED That's sorted then. She's been very helpful so far. MIKE Been on that job over at Barnwood. They've had cowboys in before. What a mess, I'm having to re-skim it all. I told them: I said this'll take weeks- MIKE Hey cut it out you two! JANET Mike? Have you taken them? MIKE Yeah, yeah. DC LAW This interview is being taped at Gloucester police station. The date is 26th February 1994 and the time 10:38 I am DC Law and my colleague is... DC HAZEL SAVAGE DC Savage. DC LAW Can I have your full name please? FRED Frederick Walter Stephen West. DC LAW And your legal representative? OGDEN Howard Ogden. DC LAW And acting as your appropriate adult? JANET Janet Leach. DC LAW I have to remind you that you are still under caution. Do you understand? FRED Yes, and before you say anything else, me and him just had an argument. OGDEN Discussion- FRED And I'm telling you now what I just told him. Heather is not in that garden. She's alive and well and possibly at this moment in Bahrain. She's been recruited to work for a drugs cartel as a drug runner. They treat her like a queen. But she gets in touch now and then to tell me she's all right. she's using a false name I've no idea what that is, because she won't say and I won't let her tell me. Now whether you believe in that or not is entirely up to you. But that's why you haven't found nothing in that garden, and won't even if you dig till Kingdom Come. And I don't care how much money and time you waste, because you wasted mine, not just now, but in the past- DC HAZEL SAVAGE Because there were previous allegations- FRED There was nothing in them- DC HAZEL SAVAGE Rape and buggery of two of your children- OGDEN They were never proven. FRED You had me remanded in prison, spat at by other prisoners, my younger kids put in to care - where they still are, poor little lambs - trying to force me to admit I assaulted them- DC HAZEL SAVAGE Trying to get to the truth Fred- FRED You turned my house upside down- DC HAZEL SAVAGE And we'll do so again, and the garden- FRED Three thousand pound it cost me last time- DC HAZEL SAVAGE We'll keep on searching until we find Heather- FRED All because of some stupid remark about her being under the patio- DC HAZEL SAVAGE That remark was made by your own daughter, Fred. Anne Marie said it was a family joke- FRED A joke, there you are! DC HAZEL SAVAGE To social workers who, like me, have had concerns about your family for a considerable time- FRED (sardonic for a second.) You're the beautifullest woman in Gloucester when you get angry, Hazel! DC HAZEL SAVAGE (angry, but not rattled) I'm just trying to get to the truth this time, Fred- FRED You're being personal and vindictive! DC HAZEL SAVAGE I am being neither Fred- FRED Against me and my Rose, who loves our family, who'd do anything for them! DC HAZEL SAVAGE Why are you saying this now Fred, when last night you took us to the house with Mr Ogden and this lady and you showed us a grave? FRED You inconvenienced me. DC LAW So are you trying to inconvenience DC Savage to get back at her? DC HAZEL SAVAGE You really saying there's nothing in that grave? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Why are you smirking? FRED Who's smirking? DC HAZEL SAVAGE You said yesterday you wanted to get all this sorted out? FRED And then I spent a night in a cell thinking: what I want is Rose back at our home. I want my children back, and my house and garden reinstated. We are a family! DC HAZEL SAVAGE Let's just ask Mrs Leach, as an independent lady, what she thinks? JANET Erm... Well... He's clearly contradicting what he said last night. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Did you hear that Fred? JANET And... I saw the smirk. DC LAW For the benefit of the tape PC Roberts has entered the room. FRED Nothing more hurtful than people saying you don't love your kids. FRED (CONT'D) I bet you feel the same? I bet you're a mother? JANET That's completely irrelevant. FRED Ah but it isn't, see. Because I think you understand how deep my feelings are for my family. FRED (CONT'D) Don't you? FRED (CONT'D) Time for a cuppa, I'd say Hazel. DC HAZEL SAVAGE We can take a refreshment break shortly. First I'd like to discuss the information that Detective Superintendent Bennett's just sent from your house. FRED What information? DC HAZEL SAVAGE They've found some bones in the garden. FRED Well, like I said: I wanted to get all this sorted out- DC HAZEL SAVAGE Our pathologist is confident they're human- FRED And if I accused you of inconveniencing me, then I apologise- DC HAZEL SAVAGE Are you sure you buried Heather all in one place? FRED You what? DC HAZEL SAVAGE You didn't scatter any of her body around the garden? FRED No. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Because they've found another body part in another part of the garden. FRED Can't think how that could have got there. OGDEN Are you suggesting it wasn't part of Heather? FRED It must have been- DC HAZEL SAVAGE It was a thigh bone. They'd already found two thigh bones - Heather didn't have three legs, did she? OGDEN Do you have any knowledge how this other bone might have got there Fred? FRED (only a fractional hesitation) Yes, Shirley. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Shirley who? FRED Robinson. The girl that caused all the trouble. JANET The girl with the red mini? FRED Thank you. Yes. FRED (CONT'D) You see she lodged with us. And I.. I had an affair with her. She got pregnant, said she wanted to marry me. Said she was gonna tell Rose. There was a bit of an argument. It got out of hand somehow and she ended up strangled. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Where was Rose at this time? FRED In hospital. Having a baby. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Which baby? FRED (thinking) Babs... No not Babs, young Rosemarie. I come back from seeing Rose at the hospital and Shirley and I had this row and I killed her. DC HAZEL SAVAGE How? FRED Strangled her with a piece of flex. DC HAZEL SAVAGE And buried her in the garden? FRED Yes. And her with a babby inside her too. FRED (CONT'D) I can't tell you how that's haunted me. I mean about the babby. That in killing Shirley, the babby would have died too. DC HAZEL SAVAGE I think we'll end there. Does anyone have anything else to say? DC LAW The time's 11:06 and the interview is ended. JANET Excuse me. DC HAZEL SAVAGE We've decided to leave the interviews for today. JANET Okay. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Fred needs some clean clothes. I wonder could go to the house with Mr Ogden and get them? JANET Uh... yes... all right. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Whilst you're at it, could you get some for Mrs West too? We're still holding her at Cheltenham. JANET Okay. (Beat) Does he really have learning difficulties? JANET (CONT'D) So why do you need an appropriate adult? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Detective Superintendent Bennett is concerned there's no suggestion Mr West had difficulty understanding any of this. UNIFORMED CONSTABLE This way. Right at the top I think. OGDEN Upstairs I think. OGDEN You did know she works as a prostitute? JANET I had worked that out.. OGDEN Clothes. OGDEN No there is nothing in here. MAE I thought you'd already searched in here! JANET We're not police. STEPHEN Language: 10:29:21 Who the fuck are you then? OGDEN I'm your Dad's solicitor. MAE Who's this? JANET Janet Leach, I'm acting as your father's appropriate adult. MAE His what? JANET I've been asked to help him. We've been sent to pick up clean clothes. STEPHEN Where is Dad? No one's told us anything. OGDEN Gloucester police station. I'm afraid he's been arrested on suspicion of murder. MAE Murder of who? STEPHEN If there's any murder gone on, it'll be mum, not dad! MAE Don't say that about mum! STEPHEN Language: 10:29:45 I'll say what fuckin' I like! MAE Don't listen to him. Mum's all right. Dad's the one. Tell mum I hope she's all right and we want her home. MAE (CONT'D) Please will you do that for me? OGDEN Mrs West. ROSE Language: 10:30:30 Jesus. You. OGDEN This lady's brought you some of your clothes. ROSE What? ROSE (CONT'D) You've been to my house? Rooting 'round in my things! JANET The police asked me to. ROSE Language: 10:30:41 Fucking cheek! JANET We were only just quickly in and out. We saw Stephen and Mae- and Mae said she hoped you were all right- ROSE (rising, beside herself) By what right! By what right you nosy fucking bitch, do you go into my house and speak to my children and poke about among my private things- OGDEN Rose- ROSE Jesus Christ! FEMALE CONSTABLE Rose, calm down! ROSE (advancing on JANET) Who are you anyway? Who are you- DET SUPT BENNETT She's helping us Mrs West! ROSE She got no right touching my clothing! And you got no right arresting me- DET SUPT BENNETT All we want is to get to the truth- ROSE No it ain't! What you want is for me to say Fred killed our Heather and I helped him! DET SUPT BENNETT Did you? ROSE Language: 10:31:19 No, I did not! How many fucking times! You got nothing on me and you know it! DET SUPT BENNETT (To the FEMALE CONSTABLE) Take her back to the cells please. FEMALE CONSTABLE Come on! ROSE Don't touch me! ROSE (CONT'D) And what you so fucking scared of, you little mouse?! Little mousy mouse wouldn't say boo to a fucking goose! I bet you're a dirty little lezzie too! DET SUPT BENNETT Mrs West. ROSE Language: 10:32:00 Innocent isn't she. I said don't touch me didn’t I? I told you don't fucking touch me. DET SUPT BENNETT Sorry about that. JANET It's all right. OGDEN Look have a seat. I'll get you a glass of water. DET SUPT BENNETT Occupational hazard, I'm afraid, that kind of abuse- JANET It's not that- DET SUPT BENNETT What is it then? JANET Things have happened, things have been said that I hadn't expected- DET SUPT BENNETT What things? DET SUPT BENNETT (CONT'D) Has Fred said anything to you privately - about any of this? JANET I can't tell you. I owe a duty of confidence. DET SUPT BENNETT Of course. OGDEN But if he does try to give you information privately, you can advise him to speak to me- JANET (irritably, exhausted) I know, I've done the training! DET SUPT BENNETT You better get home. MIKE (alarmed) What are you doing? It's Sunday. JANET I know. They need me to go in again- MIKE What? JANET The police! MIKE Language: 10:33:39 Bloody hell Janet! JANET Hello? JANET (CONT'D) Yeah, Yeah I'm just going in now... JANET (CONT'D) Course, I'm coping. Who says I'm not? JANET (CONT'D) Pull out? No!.. So are you saying if I carry on, you won't support me? JANET (CONT'D) Okay. Fine! JANET Excuse me, can I ask? Have you said something to her? DET SUPT BENNETT What? JANET The organiser of the Appropriate Adult register. DET SUPT BENNETT Yes, yes I have- JANET Did you tell her I wasn't up to this? DET SUPT BENNETT No I did not. JANET 'Cause she rang me, asked if I wanted to pull out- DET SUPT BENNETT I explained this was a very difficult and distressing case. She's perfectly entitled to give you that opportunity- JANET Well I won't- DET SUPT BENNETT Are you quite sure you still feel able to carry on? JANET Yeah absolutely! DET SUPT BENNETT Very well. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Janet. There's been a development. JANET What? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Fred's indicated that there's another body in the garden. JANET Who? DC HAZEL SAVAGE A girl called Alison Chambers. I suspect he's told us because he thinks we'll find the body anyway. I want him to point out the grave. Can you come to the house? JANET Yeah of course. DC HAZEL SAVAGE So here Fred. This here is where we found bones that you say may belong to Shirley Robinson. Where did you bury Alison Chambers? FRED Well, now you're asking. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Yes, I am asking Fred. FRED Let's see... hmmm. FRED (CONT'D) No. I... I don't know if I can get it... FRED (CONT'D) No, hold on, hold on... I'm picking something up... FRED (CONT'D) Yes that's her... DC HAZEL SAVAGE Alison? FRED She's... she's trying to tell me something JANET What's she trying to tell you Fred? FRED Where she is... But... FRED (CONT'D) I don't think I can understand what she's trying to... yeah. Hold on... Hold on... FRED (CONT'D) Yep try there. FRED (CONT'D) Now that's it. You'll find no more. DC HAZEL SAVAGE What about Reena? FRED Reena? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Your first wife? And what about Charmaine? FRED Charmaine? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Why are you looking at me like that? Reena had a daughter, Charmaine - who became your step-daughter? Where are they? FRED Well... you lose track, you lose track of people don't you- DC HAZEL SAVAGE You said you'd lost track of Heather, but you killed her and buried her in this garden. And you did the same to Shirley Robinson and Alison Chambers- FRED You will not find Reena and Charmaine here, and that I swear! FRED (CONT'D) And even if you don't believe me, I know the appropriate adult does. Because I think she understands me, in a way that you lot don't. Ain't that so? JANET How can I understand you -You've killed people, FRED Because you're a woman who can see beneath the surface. And a woman who knows remorse when she sees it. FRED (CONT'D) Unlike you lot. CAROL BARNES ...police have found two more bodies in the garden in Gloucester where the remains of the missing schoolgirl Heather West were discovered on Saturday, her father is charged with the murder. The two new bodies are thought to be of adults but police say identification will be difficult. They are checking registers of missing people. Our West of England Reporter Steve Scott has the details. JANET Can I use that table? Can't concentrate in there. MIKE Sure, yeah. STEVE SCOTT In the heart of Gloucester, one three story home has become the focal point of the city's biggest ever criminal investigation... (Continues under) Under the yellow tarpaulin forensic teams have unearthed three sets of human remains. This is their sixth night beneath the stone patio, which covered the garden. Earlier today detectives revealed the bones they are currently ?? Probably belonged to two adults JOSH Is this the thing you're involved with? JOSH (CONT'D) It is, isn't it? MIKE Obviously it is, Josh, but she can't talk about it. JOSH Do you think there are more bodies? MIKE I bet there are more though, most people do. STEVE SCOTT Police have also confirmed that the man's wife has been released without charge. Indications are that the police operation at 25 Cromwell Street, could go on for many more days yet. DC HAZEL SAVAGE I'll show you out. I know how distressing it is for you but we do appreciate you coming in. I'll let you know as soon as we have any news. DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Ready for another session? JANET Yes. JANET (CONT'D) Who's that? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Mr and Mrs Gough. Gloucester couple whose daughter lodged with Wests 20 years ago. We've found some belongings in the house we think may be hers. JANET You think she could be another victim? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Yes. JANET Where's this going to end? FRED There are three bodies and that's it! Now, I've said I'm ready to sort all that out. And I know it means I'll never be going home again. But I want the garden reinstated, and I want Rose and the kids back home- DC HAZEL SAVAGE She can't go back home- FRED Why not? You've released Rose? DC LAW We've put her in a safe house, with Mae and Stephen. Your younger kids are still in care. DC HAZEL SAVAGE We're still searching the property. And the fact we've released Rose doesn't mean that we believe she's innocent. FRED This is all wrong, see. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Did Rose know about your relationship with Shirley Robinson? FRED No she didn't. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Shirley was living under the same roof, Rose she must have known she was pregnant- FRED She didn't know I was the father. DC HAZEL SAVAGE I suggest that she did. I suggest she was jealous. I suggest she helped you to kill her. DC LAW We've found Shirley's body, Fred- FRED I know, it was me showed you where it was- DC HAZEL SAVAGE So can you explain why the baby wasn't inside her? FRED What? DC HAZEL SAVAGE The baby has not been left intact in the abdomen. FRED I... I need to take a break. DC LAW The time is 11:45. The interview is ended. OGDEN Back in a minute, Fred. DC LAW Can you sign this off Mrs Leach. OGDEN (to Hazel) I need to speak to you. FRED That... that would have been Rose. JANET What would? FRED The baby? JANET Are you saying... JANET (CONT'D) That Rose removed the baby from Shirley's womb? FRED Oh no, no, Rose is a mother, she'd never do a thing like that. JANET I can't do this- FRED Don't go! Please! JANET Language: 10:42:26 Give me one good reason why I should stay and listen to this crap- FRED I know you've suffered. JANET What? You don't know anything about me! FRED I can see it in your eyes. I know you've not always been properly loved and respected by men- JANET I've had enough of this. You have to tell the police everything! If you've killed and buried other women they need to know, the girls' families need to know! FRED I'm not admitting nothing else to Mr Ogden or the police. JANET Then I'm going and I won't be coming back. FRED You can't go, you're my appropriate adult! JANET Language: 10:43:01 I don't give a shit! FRED Please, please... please Janet, please stay... You are the only one I can trust. JANET On one condition! You tell the police who else you've killed! FRED All right. JANET In writing, so you can't backtrack. I'll get Mr Ogden in. JANET (CONT'D) Mr Ogden! OGDEN Yes? JANET Mr West wants to make a statement. OGDEN Saying what? JANET Who else he's killed. OGDEN (To FRED, quietly incredulous) Really? OGDEN (CONT'D) Well what exactly do you want to say? JANET Go on Fred? FRED Janet come and sit here. OGDEN So... what shall we put? 'I Frederick West authorise my solicitor...' FRED (nods) Authorise my solicitor... OGDEN 'Howard Ogden...' FRED Howard Ogden... OGDEN 'To advise Superintendent Bennett'? FRED Superintendent Bennett. OGDEN Of? FRED Of a further eight killings... OGDEN Eight? FRED All right... nine. OGDEN Well is it eight or nine? JANET Shall we just put 'approx'? FRED That's it, put 'approx'. Good girl. OGDEN (repeating as he writes) ...of a further nine (approx) killings... DET SUPT BENNETT (To OGDEN) This is his signature? OGDEN Yes. DET SUPT BENNETT Because these don't sound like his words? OGDEN We drafted it for him on his instructions. DET SUPT BENNETT 'We'? OGDEN He made this admission following a conversation with Mrs Leach. JANET I also got him to draw a map. JANET (CONT'D) He says some bodies are in the garden, some under the cellar floor. And there's a body in a field. DET SUPT BENNETT It's all a bit vague... 'others to be identified'? DC HAZEL SAVAGE We've already made a start in trying to identify whose they might be. DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) It's a huge breakthrough Sir. DET SUPT BENNETT Why did he come out with all this? JANET I said if he didn't start telling the truth, I wouldn't help him any more. DET SUPT BENNETT That could be regarded as putting him under duress. JANET How? I was just being honest. And I told him it was you he should tell, not me, because I have to keep what he says to me in private confidential. DC HAZEL SAVAGE You've done exactly the right thing. JANET I won't have to go to court will I? DET SUPT BENNETT I doubt that very much, Mrs Leach. You're the appropriate adult, you're here to assist Mr West. FRED See the problem I have down here is the high water table. No matter how much concrete I put down I still get seepage. FRED (CONT'D) Now. Let's see what I can do for you. FRED (CONT'D) Hmm... I dunno. DET SUPT BENNETT What don't you know Fred? FRED See, I can feel the... I can feel their spirits reaching out to me, see. But I'm getting the same message from all of them. They're trying to tell me they're better off where they are. They don't want to be disturbed. DET SUPT BENNETT Language: 10:48:10 This is a pile of crap. Either there are more bodies here or there aren't. JANET He's told us that there are. DET SUPT BENNETT He better not have come up with these extra nine just to impress you. JANET I don't think he's done that. DET SUPT BENNETT (to JANET) All the same, I'd beware of getting too pally with him. JANET I'm not getting pally with him, I'm just trying to help! DET SUPT BENNETT Dig the floor up. Take the house apart brick-by-brick if you have to. DET SUPT BENNETT (CONT'D) (To DC SAVAGE, JANET, OGDEN) This is getting out of hand! People are going to start thinking he's taking the mick out of us. JANET Thanks. MALE JOURNALIST Janet Leach? JANET Yes. MALE JOURNALIST Can we have a quick chat? JANET What about? MALE JOURNALIST The work you're doing with the police. FEMALE JOURNALIST Janet, hi. Kirsty Stephens, The Herald. MALE JOURNALIST (To the FEMALE JOURNALIST) Language: 10:49:06 Fuck off Kirsty, I'm talking to her- FEMALE JOURNALIST (Ignoring him) Listen Janet, before you make any decisions, please talk to me- JANET What do you mean decisions? FEMALE JOURNALIST Cromwell Street. You clearly know the inside story- JANET Who told you that- FEMALE JOURNALIST We have our ways - JANET I've got nothing to say to you- TV REPORTER Another day and the forensic teams continue to bring up boxes of earth dug from the garden. Some, they hope contain evidence JANET How's things? MIKE It's a Jag XJ6C, 4.2 Litre coupe. JANET What? MIKE There were only six thousand made! It's got full leather, automatic transmission, top speed of 120. Immaculate throughout... JANET You're not thinking of buying a car? MIKE He only wants four grand. JANET You haven't got four grand. MIKE We could get it easy. JANET How? MIKE The newspapers. Look what came through the door. JANET What? MIKE (CONT'D) They want to buy your story. MIKE (CONT'D) Could be worth thousands. JANET I can't talk to the press- MIKE I bet everyone else is. JANET Who? MIKE I dunno, the police. How else does all this stuff get in the papers? It's a hell of a story Janet, it's been on the news about there being more bodies- JANET Mike, this is ridiculous! I'm doing this because it's vital, not to make money! MIKE That's bonkers if you ask me. MIKE (CONT'D) I'll have to rustle it up from somewhere else, then. JOSH Is he all right? JANET What do you mean? JOSH It's the sort of thing he starts doing... Talking a lot, buying stuff he can't afford- JANET He's fine. He's taking his medication. JOSH Yet another takeaway. JANET Yeah. JOSH (indicating CHRIS and JADE) We had to eat something. JANET Yeah, I'll give you the money. JOSH How long's this gonna go on? JANET I don't know love. FRED Takes me back this, you know. Right back to boyhood. Every inch, every blade of grass... That's the Letterbox Field down there - DC HAZEL SAVAGE We've come here to search for the remains of your first wife, Fred, we're not sightseeing. FRED I know, but it's lovely to get out of that police station. Eh Janet? Smell God's fresh air? FRED (CONT'D) Try there. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Okay lads! We are over here! That's the spot there then, mark the spot then Darren. DC LAW Okay. DC HAZEL SAVAGE That's it. So you take that as your starting point. FRED Wouldn't mind a wander over there, too Janet. JANET Why? FRED For old times' sake. JANET What's so special about over there? FRED See, I love Rose. I loved Reena too. But Anna was the one. JANET Who's Anna? FRED The true love of my life. FRED (CONT'D) You see, Anna was having a babby too. But that was a babby I wanted... JANET (deeply unsettled) I don't understand. DC HAZEL SAVAGE All right? FRED I was just asking Janet about my fish. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Fish? FRED My tropical fish. Who's feeding them? DC HAZEL SAVAGE Let's get you back to the nick. JANET Mike? You bought it? MIKE Yeah It's not the one I went after, it's another. Beautiful isn't it? JANET How much was it? MIKE It's just immaculate. The bloke I bought it from a Jag specialist- JANET How much was it? MIKE Nine grand. JANET Nine thousand? We can't spend that kind of money on a car! MIKE It's fine, got in on HP. JANET We don't even need another car!... And what is going on in here? MIKE Got a new TV and video too. Even better deal than the car. Got this new unit to put them on too, but they haven't supplied enough fixings- JANET (alarmed now)) Mike, Mike! MIKE (indicating the unit he's dismantled) Had to nick some from that- JANET Mike, this is ridiculous! MIKE What? JANET We are not getting a new TV or a new car! JANET (CONT'D) Have you been taking your lithium? MIKE Yeah course yeah. JANET Are you sure? JANET (CONT'D) You haven't, you've been missing days! MIKE Only the odd day! JANET You can't afford to miss any days, you know that! JANET (CONT'D) Right kids upstairs, go on go! (To Mike) Mike that car is going back! CHRIS What's up with Mike? JADE I dunno he's gone crazy. MIKE I'm not taking them back! JANET Just sit down. They're going back! MIKE Why? JANET Just sit down! Go and sit down. Come on love, come on. JANET (CONT'D) I'm going to have to get you into hospital. I'm going to call them now alright. JOSH I warned you. JANET Just stay out of this Josh! JOSH None of this would have happened if you'd been thinking about us. JOSH (CONT'D) But you'd far rather spend time with that murderer- JANET Just leave it will you Josh! JANET (CONT'D) Hello? Yes my name's Janet Leach. I'm calling about my partner... He's bipolar and he's gone into a high... I need to bring him in urgently... JANET He's finally dropped off. DOCTOR He's clearly got very over-stimulated though... DOCTOR (CONT'D) It could take days, maybe weeks to get him fully stabilised again. JANET I see. Do you need me to stay? DOCTOR No. JANET Would it be okay if I came back this afternoon about half four? DOCTOR Fine. ROSE (V.O.) (on tape) Language: 10:56:16 ... I’m admitting nothing because I’ve got fuckin nothing to admit. MAE (V.O.) (on tape) So it’s all dad? ROSE (V.O.) (on tape) That’s what I’m saying Mae. I'm as shocked about all this as you are! DC LAW Rose is denying it to us, and to her daughter. We've nothing else on her so unless Fred drops her in it... DC HAZEL SAVAGE Janet. Ready to crack on? JANET Yes, but I need to leave by four at the latest. Urgent family matter. DC HAZEL SAVAGE That's fine. A SERIES OF OVERLAPPING SCENES: DC LAW Did you engage them in sado-masochistic acts? FRED They were adventurous young girls. DC HAZEL SAVAGE So how did you end up killing them? FRED You see, you've even got the killing wrong! You're trying to make out that I just went out and blatantly killed people. It wasn't like that! Enjoyment that turned to disaster! DC HAZEL SAVAGE We're all having difficulty understanding this. Especially how these things could have gone on without Rose's knowledge- FRED Rose was out! DC HAZEL SAVAGE Out where? FRED Shopping. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Whilst you had sex, murdered and buried them? She must have had an awful lot of shopping to do. FRED She does! And it's a fair old walk to Tesco. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Mary Bastholme? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Carol Cooper? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Lucy Partington? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Shirley Hubbard? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) The women I've just named didn't stay at your house - I don't believe they were known to you in any way but they disappeared from local bus-stops- DC HAZEL SAVAGE VO Do you know where you were then Fred? DC LAW Let’s go through this one more time. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Did Rose know about these sexual encounters? DC LAW She must have known. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Did she participate in them? DC HAZEL SAVAGE (CONT'D) Did Rose kill Charmaine? FRED Rose did not kill no-one! FRED (CONT'D) I killed Charmaine when I come out of Leyhill Prison. For the last time, Rose had no part of this! DC HAZEL SAVAGE Your loyalty's very touching - do you think she feels the same way about you? FRED Rose loves me! DC HAZEL SAVAGE And you were so confident of that you didn't mind her having sex with other men? FRED That's correct- DC HAZEL SAVAGE So long as you knew about it? FRED I always knew about it- DC HAZEL SAVAGE So you knew she was seeing male clients at another premises in Gloucester? FRED What? DC LAW 22 Sunderland Street. FRED That is rubbish! DC LAW We've spoken to men who met her there for sex. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Do you find that upsetting Fred? There were things in Rose’s life you didn't know about? Sexual relationships she kept to herself? FRED No I don't, because you're making it up! DC HAZEL SAVAGE No we're not Fred! FRED I know you are! Rose is all mine, she always has been, and I would know... I would know here... (he points at his heart) If that ever changed! She is my love, that's what she is! And I ain't having you telling me otherwise. DC HAZEL SAVAGE Sit down please Fred! OGDEN Fred? You're not helping yourself. DC LAW Interview ended at 15.47 by my watch. OGDEN This suggestion that Rose West was seeing men without Fred West's knowledge do you have any further disclosure about that? DC HAZEL SAVAGE You better come to the office. FRED Don't rush off Janet. JANET I have to. FRED Language: 10:59:35 That's all bullshit about Rose seeing other fellas at some place I didn't know about. JANET Well I'm sorry I can't stay and discuss it now. FRED But a man needs to know his wife has no secrets from him, doesn't he? Would you keep secrets from your husband? JANET I'm not married. FRED There's still a lucky fella in your life, I can tell... JANET Language: 10:59:52 Mind your own bloody business! FRED Please don’t go. FRED (CONT'D) Something I want to tell you. FRED (CONT'D) It's about Rose! JANET What about her? FRED She was involved. JANET In how many of them? FRED Lots. The things I could tell you about what she done to some of them girls. I may have started it but... she took over and did whatever she liked... I mean it... she would of took the babby out of Shirley's body, not me. That is the kind of woman she is. JANET If all that is true... how can you hold that back from the police- FRED For the sake of the family- JANET I don't understand- FRED We made a pact, see, that I would take all the blame to myself. The day the police come with a warrant I was out, Rose called me to warn me. I had a few hours to deal with certain things - get rid of certain items I had in the van and so on - then I come home. And the police let us have five minutes alone together and we agreed then that I would tell them it was all me. FRED (CONT'D) I know you think it's wrong that Rose gets away with it, and I have to pay the price. But it is the plan we made so she can look after the family... And that plan is working, Anna! JANET Why did you just called me Anna? FRED Sorry, Janet... I get confused, my mind is spinning with this. FRED (CONT'D) I'm losing everything. My family, my wife, home. And you, you're helping me through the most terrible time in my life. You're my only friend- JANET I'm not your friend- FRED You are... FRED (CONT'D) We're going on a journey together, Janet. Neither of us knows where it's gonna end. But we're on it together. JANET I have to go! DET SUPT BENNETT Mrs Leach. JANET Yes? DET SUPT BENNETT We won't be needing you any more. JANET What? DET SUPT BENNETT Your services on the enquiry are no longer required on the inquiry. JANET Why? DET SUPT BENNETT I'm not obliged to give reasons- JANET (furious) You can't just drop me without explanation- DET SUPT BENNETT Yes I can- JANET You can't! Not now! DET SUPT BENNETT What do you mean 'not now'? JANET (clearly in turmoil) I... I can't answer that! DET SUPT BENNETT Well clearly you found all this very distressing, but thank you for your help. .ROSE I tell you I am sick of this, the fucking trouble your father caused me. And those fucking police yabbering on at me; what I done when, what your dad's done when. Who stayed in the fucking house when. Well I'm not taking the blame for fucking nothing. **STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL** International Script August 2011 1 Appropriate Adult Episode 1 script page: